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title: "Using Chinese LLM APIs From Malaysia: What Actually Works"
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description: "Using Chinese LLM APIs (GLM-5.3, DeepSeek V4) from Malaysia: how I paid in RMB, handled phone verification, and which providers actually work."
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pubDate: 2026-09-11
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category: ai
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tags: [llm, api, deepseek, glm, alipay, malaysia]
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Chinese frontier models — GLM-5.3, DeepSeek V4, Qwen3.8-Max, Kimi K3 — now
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score close to Claude on coding benchmarks while costing a fraction of Western
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frontier APIs. For a solo developer or a small business running AI automation,
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that price difference is the difference between "AI that pays for itself" and
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"AI that's too expensive to run."
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But using them from Malaysia means crossing three walls first: paying in RMB,
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passing mainland-China phone verification, and (on some platforms) real-name
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(实名) registration. This is what I actually did, what broke, and what I'd do
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differently.
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## Why bother?
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Chinese API pricing is often 3–10× cheaper than the equivalent Western model.
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As of this writing, DeepSeek's V4.1 Flash is around **US$0.15–0.30 per 1M
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input tokens and US$0.60–1.20 per 1M output tokens** (off-peak hours are half
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price; cached input is ~20× cheaper still). A US$10 top-up goes a long way —
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tens of millions of tokens for agent workloads if you route carefully.
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The catch: most of these platforms are built for mainland developers. That
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means Chinese payment rails and, frequently, a mainland phone number for SMS
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verification.
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## Wall #1 — paying in RMB
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I already had my own Alipay account, which is the payment method most of these
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platforms accept (Alipay top-up on the platform itself, or Alipay to pay a
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gateway). The problem is keeping RMB in it from Malaysia.
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I reload my Alipay RMB balance through an exchange contact I've used for many
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top-ups. It's a common gray-market route in Malaysia — do your own due
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diligence, and never send more than you're comfortable losing. Once the RMB is
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in Alipay, paying for API credits is exactly like paying for anything else in
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China.
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## Wall #2 — phone verification
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**TokenRhythm (基元律动)** — the gateway I use most — requires a mainland China
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phone number for registration. There's no way around that requirement on their
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side, and I won't recommend dodging it. If you don't have access to a mainland
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number, platforms like DeepSeek (email signup) or BytePlus ModelArk (Singapore,
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USD billing) let you skip this wall entirely — more on those below.
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What made TokenRhythm worth the hassle:
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- **One API key, OpenAI-compatible.** It aggregates GLM-5.3, Qwen3.8-Max,
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DeepSeek V4, Kimi K2.7-Code, MiniMax, and Seed models behind a standard
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`https://tokenrhythm.studio/v1` endpoint. Any agent that speaks OpenAI-style
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APIs (OpenCode, Claude Code, LiteLLM, my own bots) just works.
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- **Referral credits.** Registering through an invite link gets you ¥68 (~US$10)
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in free credit; referring another registration gets you another ¥68. The
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reward unlocks after you install their desktop app (OpenSquilla) and make at
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least one call from it — after that, the same API key works in any agent.
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- **The credit is real money.** ¥68 (about US$10) covered roughly a month of
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light agent work, or about a week of heavy sessions, with DeepSeek V4 Pro
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through the gateway. DeepSeek's pricing is genuinely very good, so the credit
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goes further than you'd expect.
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## The gotcha nobody warns you about
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Promotional credit on these platforms is **time-limited, not a balance**.
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TokenRhythm's new-user credit expires 30 days after it's granted — my first
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batch expired on 2026-09-03 with some still unused. Don't register and hoard
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the credit for "later". Spend it, or lose it.
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Also worth knowing: DeepSeek is retiring its V4 Pro model on **September 14,
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2026** — after that, `deepseek-v4-pro` requests are served by V4.1 Flash and
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billed at Flash prices. That's good news for cost, just don't expect the Pro
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behaviour to stay the same (other replacements will come).
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## What actually works, in order of friction
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1. **DeepSeek directly** — email signup, no China phone, no real-name.
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Cheapest per-token of anything I use. The official docs list the current
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rates with a peak/off-peak split.
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2. **TokenRhythm (基元律动)** — best model menu for the money, OpenAI-compatible,
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but you need the mainland phone number and an invite link for the ¥68 credit.
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3. **BytePlus ModelArk** — ByteDance's international platform: Singapore
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entity, USD billing, no China phone, and data processed in Malaysia/Singapore
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region. Slightly pricier per token, far less friction.
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4. **OpenCode Go** — US$10/month flat for a curated roster of open coding
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models (GLM, DeepSeek, Kimi, Qwen, MiniMax) with roughly 6× the usage value.
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Not Chinese-billing at all, which is exactly its point.
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## What I'd do differently
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- **Check the verification requirements before signing up.** Email-only
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platforms (DeepSeek) or international platforms (BytePlus, OpenCode Go) avoid
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the phone wall completely. Only reach for the mainland-phone platforms when
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their model menu or price genuinely beats the alternatives.
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- **Burn promotional credit immediately.** It's a 30-day lease, not a balance.
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- **Start with a small recharge.** Test the actual model on your real workload
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for a week before committing.
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- **Re-check prices before each top-up.** Chinese API pricing moves fast — DeepSeek
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cut prices permanently this year, GLM runs periodic flash promos, and deals
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appear and vanish weekly. Never assume last month's price is this month's.
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## The result
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I now run my AI automation — Telegram support bots, agentic coding sessions,
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background LLM jobs — on Chinese LLM APIs for roughly the price of a coffee per
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week of active use. The ¥68 TokenRhythm credit alone covered a month of light
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use (a week of heavy work), and a US$10 DeepSeek top-up lasts even longer at
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V4.1 Flash prices.
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The walls are real, but they're payment-rail and verification walls — not
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quality walls. If you're building AI features for a business that needs to
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actually make money, the Chinese frontier APIs are worth the setup.
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---
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## Want AI automation like this for your business?
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I build AI-powered automations, Telegram/WhatsApp support bots, websites, and
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self-hosted infrastructure for Malaysian businesses — and I set up the cheapest
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LLM routing so your running costs stay small. If that could help your business,
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I'd love to talk:
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- 📱 **WhatsApp:** [+60 12-797 2969](https://wa.me/60127972969)
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- 📧 **Email:** [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])
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- 🌐 **Website:** [hoelee.com](https://hoelee.com)
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title: "从马来西亚使用中国大模型 API:真正可行的方法"
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description: "从马来西亚使用中国大模型 API(GLM-5.3、DeepSeek V4):我如何用人民币付款、处理手机验证,以及哪些平台真正可用。"
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pubDate: 2026-09-11
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category: ai
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tags: [llm, api, deepseek, glm, alipay, malaysia]
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draft: false
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中国的顶级模型——GLM-5.3、DeepSeek V4、Qwen3.8-Max、Kimi K3——在编程评测中
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已经接近 Claude,价格却只有西方顶级 API 的几分之一。对于独立开发者或要靠
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AI 自动化盈利的小企业来说,这个差价就是"AI 能回本"和"AI 贵到用不起"的区别。
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但从马来西亚使用它们,要先跨过三道墙:用人民币付款、通过中国大陆手机号
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验证、以及部分平台要求的实名注册。下面是我实际做了什么、踩过什么坑、以及
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重来一次我会怎么改。
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## 为什么值得折腾?
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中国 API 的价格通常比同等西方模型便宜 3–10 倍。截至本文写作时,DeepSeek
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V4.1 Flash 大约是**每百万输入 tokens 0.15–0.30 美元、每百万输出 tokens
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0.60–1.20 美元**(非高峰时段半价;缓存命中的输入便宜约 20 倍)。充 10 美元
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能用很久——只要合理路由,agent 工作负载能跑数千万 tokens。
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问题在于:这些平台大多是为主陆开发者设计的。这意味着中国的支付渠道,
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而且经常要求大陆手机号接收短信验证码。
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## 第一道墙——用人民币付款
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我本来就有自己的支付宝账号,这也是这些平台普遍接受的支付方式(直接在
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平台充值,或用支付宝付给网关)。难点在于从马来西亚给支付宝的人民币余额
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充值。
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我是通过长期合作的换汇联系人给支付宝充人民币的。这是马来西亚常见的灰色
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渠道——请自行判断风险,永远不要转超过你能承受损失的钱。人民币进了支付宝
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之后,买 API 额度就跟在中国买任何东西一样简单。
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## 第二道墙——手机验证
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**基元律动(TokenRhythm)**——我最常用的聚合网关——注册时必须提供
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中国大陆手机号。这是他们平台的硬性要求,我也不打算推荐任何绕过手段。
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如果你没有大陆号码,DeepSeek(邮箱注册)或 BytePlus ModelArk(新加坡、
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美元结算)可以完全跳过这道墙——下面会详述。
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基元律动值得麻烦的原因:
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- **一个 API Key,OpenAI 兼容。** 聚合了 GLM-5.3、Qwen3.8-Max、DeepSeek V4、
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Kimi K2.7-Code、MiniMax、Seed 等模型,统一走标准
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`https://tokenrhythm.studio/v1` 端点。任何支持 OpenAI 风格的 agent
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(OpenCode、Claude Code、LiteLLM、我自己写的机器人)开箱即用。
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- **邀请返利。** 通过邀请链接注册送 ¥68(约 10 美元)额度;再邀请别人注册
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又得 ¥68。奖励需要先安装他们的桌面应用(OpenSquilla)并在里面调用至少
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一次才能解锁——之后同一个 API Key 就能用在任何 agent 上。
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- **额度是真金白银。** ¥68(约 10 美元)大概够一个月左右的轻度 agent 工作,
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重度使用大约一周(走网关调用 DeepSeek V4 Pro)。DeepSeek 的价格真的很
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便宜,额度比想象中耐用。
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## 没人提醒你的坑
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这些平台的赠送额度是**限时的,不是余额**。基元律动的新用户额度在发放后
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30 天过期——我第一批额度在 2026-09-03 过期时还剩一些没用完。不要注册完
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就囤着"以后再用",要么用掉,要么浪费掉。
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另外值得注意:DeepSeek 将在 **2026 年 9 月 14 日** 退役 V4 Pro 模型——
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之后 `deepseek-v4-pro` 的请求会由 V4.1 Flash 提供服务并按 Flash 价格计费。
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这对成本是好消息,只是别再指望原来的 Pro 表现(后续会有其他替代)。
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## 按摩擦程度排序,真正可行的方案
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1. **DeepSeek 官方 API** —— 邮箱注册,不需要中国手机号,不需要实名。
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我用过的所有方案里单 token 最便宜。官方文档有当前价格(含高峰/非高峰
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分时计价)。
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2. **基元律动(TokenRhythm)** —— 同样价格下模型菜单最全,OpenAI 兼容,
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但需要大陆手机号和邀请链接才能拿 ¥68 额度。
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3. **BytePlus ModelArk** —— 字节跳动的国际平台:新加坡主体、美元结算、
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不需要中国手机号,数据在新加坡/马来西亚区域处理。单 token 略贵,
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但摩擦小得多。
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4. **OpenCode Go** —— 每月 10 美元,精选开源编程模型(GLM、DeepSeek、
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Kimi、Qwen、MiniMax),用量价值约为订阅费的 6 倍。完全不涉及人民币
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结算——这正是它的卖点。
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## 重来一次我会怎么做
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- **注册前先查验证要求。** 只用邮箱的平台(DeepSeek)或国际平台
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(BytePlus、OpenCode Go)能完全避开手机号这道墙。只有当它们的模型菜单
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或价格确实优于替代方案时,才去碰要求大陆手机号的平台。
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- **赠送额度立刻用掉。** 那是 30 天的租约,不是余额。
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- **先小额充值。** 用你的真实工作负载测试一个星期,再决定投入多少。
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- **每次充值前重新查价格。** 中国 API 价格变动很快——DeepSeek 今年已永久
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降价,GLM 不定期做 flash 促销,优惠每周都在变。永远不要假设上个月的价格
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还是这个月的。
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## 结果
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我现在用中国大模型 API 跑我的 AI 自动化——Telegram 客服机器人、agent 编程
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会话、后台 LLM 任务——活跃使用时每周成本大约一杯咖啡。基元律动的 ¥68 额度
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就覆盖了大约一个月(轻度)或一周(重度)的真实工作,而 10 美元的 DeepSeek
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充值按 V4.1 Flash 的价格能用更久。
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那些墙是真实的,但它们是支付渠道和验证的墙——不是质量的墙。如果你在为一个
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真正需要盈利的业务做 AI 功能,中国顶级 API 值得这些前期投入。
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## 想要这样的 AI 自动化吗?
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我为马来西亚企业搭建 AI 自动化、Telegram/WhatsApp 客服机器人、网站和
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自托管基础设施——并且会帮你配置最省钱的 LLM 路由,让运行成本保持很低。
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如果你觉得这对你的业务有帮助,欢迎联系我:
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- 📱 **WhatsApp:** [+60 12-797 2969](https://wa.me/60127972969)
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- 📧 **邮箱:** [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])
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- 🌐 **网站:** [hoelee.com](https://hoelee.com)
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